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		<title>Comment on Don&#8217;t call me &#8216;Abo&#8217; by Gerry Georgatos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gerry Georgatos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Oct 2021 20:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thestringer.com.au/dont-call-me-abo-10116/comment-page-1#comment-26490&quot;&gt;Rita&lt;/a&gt;.

Dago and Wog are derogatory and hurtful.
Gerry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thestringer.com.au/dont-call-me-abo-10116/comment-page-1#comment-26490">Rita</a>.</p>
<p>Dago and Wog are derogatory and hurtful.<br />
Gerry</p>
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		<title>Comment on Friday&#8217;s poem: For Precision by Judith Wright by Trevor McGregor</title>
		<link>https://thestringer.com.au/fridays-poem-for-precision-by-judith-wright-5732/comment-page-1#comment-26560</link>
		<dc:creator>Trevor McGregor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2021 06:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very nice.. lovely</description>
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		<title>Comment on But You Don’t Look Aboriginal by Ron Hayman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Hayman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2021 07:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all, let me say that I understand how aborigines have been badly treated over the years, and am sympathetic.  You make some excellent points, even if the emotive language is a bit overdone.  Now, my step-father was dark skinned, and in the 1950s I was always told he was part Indian.  I loved him as a father, and his mother was always my &quot;nanna&quot;.  Apparently it wasn&#039;t the done thing back then to acknowledge any aboriginal heritage.  It wasn&#039;t until much later, when I began to get seriously into genealogy, that the truth started emerging.

My father told me stories about how his white father had abandoned them, and how he was sent to live with his grandfather who was a farmer near Lakes Entrance in Victoria.  A bit more research revealed that his grandfather was in fact Indian, and had married an aboriginal woman.  My dark skinned nanna resulted from that union, and eventually my father.

Now, 60 years later, I have witnessed a potentially beautiful Indian heritage overwhelmed as all my great grandfather&#039;s descendants choose to &quot;identify&quot; as aboriginal in order to claim special benefits.  I grew up and played with many of these cousins, and know that they had no special affinity with the land, nor did they have any lore or folk tales drummed into them.  But now they find it convenient to put out their hands for special consideration. They all know how to work the system.

When my father&#039;s brother died, a lot of aborigines sorted out his funeral, and arranged appropriate ceremonies that pleased them.  Now I know he wouldn&#039;t have gone along with all that, because I knew him all his life.  The most disturbing thing for me was that nothing of his Indian heritage was acknowledged, yet he was as much Indian as aboriginal.

My main point, as someone else commented, is that most modern people who identify as aboriginal are in fact genetic mixes.  The big problem from my point of view, is that typically, any other genetic origin is totally ignored as if it didn&#039;t exist.  The psychological stance of &quot;identifying as aboriginal&quot; just doesn&#039;t wash with me.  On that basis, with my proven DNA origins, I could identify as an Orkney Islander.  It&#039;s not good enough to just ignore your true biological make up.  You might have been brought up being indoctrinated with aboriginal culture, so feel comfortable in identifying.  I have used the example of my own cousins, who were not brought up this way, yet still claim to be &quot;brothers&quot; and &quot;sisters&quot; because it benefits them.  They are all just as much Indian as aboriginal, and even more European.  Aboriginals need to seriously think about acknowledging that they have evolved, and that they are just as much European now, possibly more so even than many freshly arrived families in multi-cultural Australia.  We can all assimilate some of the traditional aboriginal culture if it comes to that.  I am about 4th generation English, but definitely have an affinity for the land around the Murray River where I went camping with my father.  Incidentally, he also showed me how to tie a turban.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, let me say that I understand how aborigines have been badly treated over the years, and am sympathetic.  You make some excellent points, even if the emotive language is a bit overdone.  Now, my step-father was dark skinned, and in the 1950s I was always told he was part Indian.  I loved him as a father, and his mother was always my &#8220;nanna&#8221;.  Apparently it wasn&#8217;t the done thing back then to acknowledge any aboriginal heritage.  It wasn&#8217;t until much later, when I began to get seriously into genealogy, that the truth started emerging.</p>
<p>My father told me stories about how his white father had abandoned them, and how he was sent to live with his grandfather who was a farmer near Lakes Entrance in Victoria.  A bit more research revealed that his grandfather was in fact Indian, and had married an aboriginal woman.  My dark skinned nanna resulted from that union, and eventually my father.</p>
<p>Now, 60 years later, I have witnessed a potentially beautiful Indian heritage overwhelmed as all my great grandfather&#8217;s descendants choose to &#8220;identify&#8221; as aboriginal in order to claim special benefits.  I grew up and played with many of these cousins, and know that they had no special affinity with the land, nor did they have any lore or folk tales drummed into them.  But now they find it convenient to put out their hands for special consideration. They all know how to work the system.</p>
<p>When my father&#8217;s brother died, a lot of aborigines sorted out his funeral, and arranged appropriate ceremonies that pleased them.  Now I know he wouldn&#8217;t have gone along with all that, because I knew him all his life.  The most disturbing thing for me was that nothing of his Indian heritage was acknowledged, yet he was as much Indian as aboriginal.</p>
<p>My main point, as someone else commented, is that most modern people who identify as aboriginal are in fact genetic mixes.  The big problem from my point of view, is that typically, any other genetic origin is totally ignored as if it didn&#8217;t exist.  The psychological stance of &#8220;identifying as aboriginal&#8221; just doesn&#8217;t wash with me.  On that basis, with my proven DNA origins, I could identify as an Orkney Islander.  It&#8217;s not good enough to just ignore your true biological make up.  You might have been brought up being indoctrinated with aboriginal culture, so feel comfortable in identifying.  I have used the example of my own cousins, who were not brought up this way, yet still claim to be &#8220;brothers&#8221; and &#8220;sisters&#8221; because it benefits them.  They are all just as much Indian as aboriginal, and even more European.  Aboriginals need to seriously think about acknowledging that they have evolved, and that they are just as much European now, possibly more so even than many freshly arrived families in multi-cultural Australia.  We can all assimilate some of the traditional aboriginal culture if it comes to that.  I am about 4th generation English, but definitely have an affinity for the land around the Murray River where I went camping with my father.  Incidentally, he also showed me how to tie a turban.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Quality of life for Australians 2nd only to Norway, but for Aboriginal peoples 122nd by Daniel</title>
		<link>https://thestringer.com.au/quality-of-life-for-australians-2nd-only-to-norway-but-for-aboriginal-peoples-122nd-1345/comment-page-1#comment-26557</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2021 03:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thestringer.com.au/quality-of-life-for-australians-2nd-only-to-norway-but-for-aboriginal-peoples-122nd-1345/comment-page-1#comment-1285&quot;&gt;Bob Durnan&lt;/a&gt;.

i think this is ludicrous bob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thestringer.com.au/quality-of-life-for-australians-2nd-only-to-norway-but-for-aboriginal-peoples-122nd-1345/comment-page-1#comment-1285">Bob Durnan</a>.</p>
<p>i think this is ludicrous bob</p>
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		<title>Comment on Email to The Stringer – “I would be utterly embarrassed to call myself an Aboriginal” by Phoebe</title>
		<link>https://thestringer.com.au/email-to-the-stringer-i-would-be-utterly-embarrassed-to-call-myself-an-aboriginal-9349/comment-page-1#comment-26539</link>
		<dc:creator>Phoebe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2021 09:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The discourse under this article is still relevant 6 years later. I don’t know how to deal with racist attitudes in WA because there’s so much of it. It’s improving but I still hear non-indigenous people cursing out Aboriginal people just for existing.

The cognitive dissonance older generations experience is such a big obstacle in any social change. Young people are being exposed to so many new ideas about racism and colonialism. I’m excited to see what happens in the next 30-50 years (assuming climate change and disease doesn’t kill us all first lol)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The discourse under this article is still relevant 6 years later. I don’t know how to deal with racist attitudes in WA because there’s so much of it. It’s improving but I still hear non-indigenous people cursing out Aboriginal people just for existing.</p>
<p>The cognitive dissonance older generations experience is such a big obstacle in any social change. Young people are being exposed to so many new ideas about racism and colonialism. I’m excited to see what happens in the next 30-50 years (assuming climate change and disease doesn’t kill us all first lol)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Don&#8217;t call me &#8216;Abo&#8217; by Rita</title>
		<link>https://thestringer.com.au/dont-call-me-abo-10116/comment-page-1#comment-26490</link>
		<dc:creator>Rita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2021 13:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excuse me?!! Your attitude is no better than anyone else if you truly think dago and wog aren’t hurtful and don’t go to the core of the person being racially abused. As a Sicilian and Mediterranean Person we find these words HIGHLY offensive just like you. But you have the AUDACITY to think yourself worthy to judge how hurt WE are by it? You need a reality check. And by the way it is highly racist even for an Aboriginal person to call Mediterranean Peoples white (insert whatever foul name your drunk brethren here in Darwin pick). Y’all are as racist and nasty as the next person</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excuse me?!! Your attitude is no better than anyone else if you truly think dago and wog aren’t hurtful and don’t go to the core of the person being racially abused. As a Sicilian and Mediterranean Person we find these words HIGHLY offensive just like you. But you have the AUDACITY to think yourself worthy to judge how hurt WE are by it? You need a reality check. And by the way it is highly racist even for an Aboriginal person to call Mediterranean Peoples white (insert whatever foul name your drunk brethren here in Darwin pick). Y’all are as racist and nasty as the next person</p>
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		<title>Comment on Police whistleblowers by Geoff Blamey</title>
		<link>https://thestringer.com.au/police-whistleblowers-2055/comment-page-1#comment-26489</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff Blamey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2020 08:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Debbie,we have made contact before.Is it possible corrupt coppers create fictitious cases on citizens they think would be easy put away.Accent,look,personality etc.Something a jury would not like.Then all buy in,40 properties,travel and Unfortunately terminate all in the know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Debbie,we have made contact before.Is it possible corrupt coppers create fictitious cases on citizens they think would be easy put away.Accent,look,personality etc.Something a jury would not like.Then all buy in,40 properties,travel and Unfortunately terminate all in the know.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The oppressor would not be so strong, if not for accomplices from among the oppressed by Debbie Bond</title>
		<link>https://thestringer.com.au/the-oppressor-would-not-be-so-strong-if-not-for-accomplices-from-among-the-oppressed-13153/comment-page-1#comment-26488</link>
		<dc:creator>Debbie Bond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2020 22:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your insight into the truth of this world is wonderful. Keep up the great writing to expose the injustices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your insight into the truth of this world is wonderful. Keep up the great writing to expose the injustices.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Schapelle Corby is innocent – part 2 – Operation Mocha by Colin</title>
		<link>https://thestringer.com.au/schapelle-corby-is-innocent-part-2-operation-mocha-6105/comment-page-1#comment-26487</link>
		<dc:creator>Colin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2020 08:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are there direct flights between South America &#038; Brisbane ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are there direct flights between South America &amp; Brisbane ?</p>
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		<title>Comment on But You Don’t Look Aboriginal by Barry Leslie</title>
		<link>https://thestringer.com.au/but-you-dont-look-aboriginal-7002/comment-page-1#comment-26486</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry Leslie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2020 07:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very well put. You have an excellent grasp of the English language and it is so good to see it being used so well to make a point so irrefutably. Well done.
Over the years I&#039;ve had people make the same comments to me regarding my Aboriginality and it has always annoyed me but after reading your explanation I not only know why I&#039;ve felt so annoyed but I now know what I&#039;m going to say to the next person that says it to me. Thank You for putting this matter into perspective and giving me the confidence to have my &#039;proper&#039; say in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very well put. You have an excellent grasp of the English language and it is so good to see it being used so well to make a point so irrefutably. Well done.<br />
Over the years I&#8217;ve had people make the same comments to me regarding my Aboriginality and it has always annoyed me but after reading your explanation I not only know why I&#8217;ve felt so annoyed but I now know what I&#8217;m going to say to the next person that says it to me. Thank You for putting this matter into perspective and giving me the confidence to have my &#8216;proper&#8217; say in the future.</p>
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